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Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
Islam, this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives. " I have no religion, and at times I wish all religions at the bottom of the sea. He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government; it is as if he would catch his people in a ****. My people are going to learn the principles of democracy, the dictates of truth and the teachings of science. Superstition must go. Let them worship as they will; every man can follow his own conscience, provided it does not interfere with sane reason or bid him against the liberty of his fellow-men." "We do not consider our principles as dogmas contained in books that are said to come from heaven. We derive our inspiration, not from heaven, or from an unseen world, but directly from life." Quoted in Atatürk: The Biography of the founder of Modern Turkey, by Andrew Mango; "In a book published in 1928, Grace Ellison quotes [Atatürk], presumably in 1926-27", Grace Ellison Turkey Today (London: Hutchinson, 1928) |
Titulli: Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
...pse te krishteret ose ata qe nuk i kishin besuar nuk e quajten te pamoralshem?
...si mund ta quajme nje njeri keshtu, ku rinin e tij e ka kaluar me nje grua plake dhe kur u plaka u ber i pa moralshema? ...į mundet nje njeri i pa moralshem ta kalojne tan jeten veq me nje grua palake? [COLOR=red]...ne demograci ose ne ligjin e tokes e konsiderojne ndere ne qofse nje njeri ka nje grua me leter dhe100 pa letra. ...sipas nje gazete zvicerane gjdo i pesti njeri nga Zvicra ka shkuar spaku nje here ne shtepi bublike e ne disa shtete eshte numri edhe me i madhe.[/COLOR] ...kejte kjo na len te kuptojme se me kete ligje morali quhet imoral dhe imorali quhet moral. |
Titulli: Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
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Qasaj kohe u zbulu edhe pluhni i bardhe,jo veē droga,po edhe sheqeri e krypa ... qasaj kohe edhe mason ataturkun e shtinen misionar si mjeshtri prej shkalles me te larte ....dhe e rrezun Otomanin ! Enver Hoxha i Turqis edhe ataturk ØØØØØØØØ! Po eshte kah hujdiset apet,mos baj dert![IMG]http://www.dardania.de/vb/upload/images/icons/icon12.gif[/IMG] . |
Titulli: Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
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Qasaj kohe u zbulu edhe pluhni i bardhe,jo veē droga,po edhe sheqeri e krypa ... qasaj kohe edhe mason ataturkun e shtinen misionar si mjeshtri prej shkalles me te larte ....dhe e rrezun Otomanin ! Enver Hoxha i Turqis edhe ataturk ØØØØØØØØ! Po eshte kah hujdiset apet,mos baj dert![IMG]http://www.dardania.de/vb/upload/images/icons/icon12.gif[/IMG] .[/QUOTE] Qemal zotnis nuk i thojn se koti baba i turqis, me kon te thojn edhe ty alime !? Bile bile bash pom duket si kogja jarana jemi une me Qemal tbirin e Rizes |
Titulli: Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
Te shikojm tash cfar po bajne turqit...
A po e njollosin e spo lan gja pa thon per te "baban e turqise moderne"? |
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Nese arrin me i fitue dy te tretat ne parlament Erdogani ka me ja ndertue ne parlament edhe nje statuj te Kemail Ataturkit...shtu sikur Sadamit apo Asadit.
Vegel e Masonve dhe perendimit per shkatrrimin e perandoris dhe sistemit shtetit aaso kohe |
Titulli: Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
Te kesh admirim per Ataturkun, eshte njesoj sikur t'ia miratosh punen Milloshevicit, Gadafit, Gj.Bushit & Ibrahim Rugoves !
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GDP turke rritet me 14.2 %
11:35 / 2.07.2012 Shpėrndaje Nė tremujorin e kėtij viti ekonomia e Turqisė ėshtė rritur me 3.2 pėr qind. Tė Ardhurat Kombėtare Bruto (GDP) pėr kėtė periudhė u realizuan rreth 182 miliardė e 500 milionė dollarė. Instituti i Statistikave tė Turqisė publikoi pėrfundimet e tremujorit tė parė tė vitit 2012 pėr Produkti i Brendshėm Bruto tė llogaritur me metodėn e prodhimit. Norma e rritjes ekonomike pėr periudhėn janar-mars 2012 ėshtė 3.2 pėr qind. Kurse Produkti i Brendshėm Bruto u rrit me 14.2 pėr qind dhe u realizua nė shifrėn 329 miliardė e 20 milionė lira turke. Kėshtu procesi i rritjes sė pandėrprerė tė ekonomisė turke, rritje qė ka filluar nė ēerekun e fundit tė vitit 2009, ka vazhduar edhe nė tremujorin e parė tė 2012-s, duke lėnė prapa 10 tremujorė. /Telegrafi/ Ataturku o ka e bon kto, kontinentin e Afrikes eshte kah e merr Azin po ashtu me ekonomi tu ec perpara bektel enka autostraden ne ks Ap po ashtu... po rritet po rritet |
Titulli: Qemal Ataturku mbi Islamin!
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuXbOwHHfh4&feature=player_embedded[/url]
Moska i qon fjal Osman PASHĖS : [INDENT][I]Moska, Pashės i ka qu fjalė Dorėzoj armėt t'mesish gjallė s'Dorzoj armėt un pėr s'gjallė Dy Taborre i kam Shqiptarė Dy Taborre i kam Shqiptarė t'Kalli Moskėn tym e flakė. [/I][/INDENT] |
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Zagaret e fese i paskan tranu theniet e Ataturkut...
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[B]Ataturk's [/B][B]General perception[/B]
Atatürk's general view regarding theocracy was not positive. In his speeches and publications he criticized religious ideology.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_personal_life#cite_note-ethem-22"][/URL]He viewed religion as an unnecessary and avoidable institution within public life. Atatürk stated that a religion should be in conformity with reason, science and logic. He viewed Islam as in complete harmony with the reasoning, science and logic.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_personal_life#cite_note-25"][/URL] The problem was not religion, but how believers understood and applied religion. True religion could not be understood as long as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_prophet"]false prophets[/URL] isolated and religious knowledge is enlightened. The only way to deal with false prophets was to deal with the Turkish people's illiteracy and prejudice.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_personal_life#cite_note-26"][/URL] |
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Then Atatürk carefully constructed and deployed a master plan, today known as the Kemalist ideology or Kemalism. Believing in this strategy Ataturk and his associates started to publicly question the value of religion and held the view religion was not compatible with modern science and secularism was imperative for modernity.
Ataturks reforms Ottoman Islamic TurkeyThus Ataturk regime began step by step to implement the Kemalist ideology with a radical reformation of the Turkish society with the aim of modernizing Turkey from the remnants of its Ottoman past. In line with their ideological convictions the Ataturk government abolished Islamic religious institutions; replace the Shariah law with adapted European legal codes; replaced the Islamic calendar with the Gregorian calendar; replace the Arabic script which was used to write the Turkish language with the Latin script and closed all religious schools. In addition Ataturk took over the country’s 70,000 mosques and restricted the building of new mosques. Muftis and imams (prayer leaders) were appointed and regulated by the government, and religious instructions were taken over by the Ministry of National Education. Mosques were to preach according to the Ataturk’s dictates and were used to spread the Kemalist ideology. For Sufi Muslims it was worse. Atatürk confiscated Sufi lodges, monasteries, meeting places and outlawed their rituals and meetings. Turkey mosque muslim hijab girlAccording to Ataturk modernity was valued and represented as not wearing any religious dress or being non-religious. So he ordered what cloths Turkey’s citizens should wear. The traditional garb of local religious leaders was outlawed. The fez (Turkish hat) was banned for men and the veil and hijab (headscarves) were discouraged and restricted for women. Atatürk and his colleagues even wanted to Turkify Islam. They ordered Muslims to use the Turkish word Tanri instead of Allah for God and use the Turkish language in Salaath (the 5 times prayers) and Azaan (the call for prayers). These preposterous changes deeply disturbed the faithful Muslims and caused widespread resentment, which led in 1933 to a return to the Arabic version of the call to prayer. After some time the Atatürk regime moved towards more extreme measures. Ataturk prohibited religious education. The existing mosques were turned into museums or used for the regimes secular purposes. |
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Religion and the individual
Religion, particularly Islam, was between an individual and God in Atatürk's eyes.[28]. When compared to Ottoman practice (political Islam integrated to government life through Millets), Atatürk believed in a form of reformed Islam (Islam between an individual and God). He believed it was possible to blend native tradition (based on Islam) and Western modernism harmoniously.[29] In this equation, he gave more emphasis towards the modernization. His modernization aimed to transform social and mental structures (native traditions of Islam) to eradicate the irrational ideas, magical superstitions and so on.[29] Atatürk was not against religion but what he perceived as all Ottoman religious and cultural elements that brought limits to people's self being.[29] He concentrated his reforms (regarding popular sovereignty) against obstacles for the individual choices being reflected in the social life. He viewed civil law and abolition of the caliphate as required for reflection of individual choices. He perceived religion as a matter of conscience, a problem of worship, but not politics. The best response on this issue comes from himself “ "Religion is a matter of conscience. One is always free to act according to the will of one's conscience. We (as a nation) are respectful of religion. It is not our intention to curtail freedom of worship, but rather to ensure that matters of religion and those of the state do not become intertwined.[30]" ” Atatürk believed in freedom of religion, but he was a secular thinker and his concept of freedom of religion was not limitless. He differentiated between social and personal practice of religion. He applied social considerations (secular requirements) when the public practice of religion was considered. He said that no one can force another to accept any religion or a sect (freedom of belief) [31]. Also, everyone has the right to perform or neglect, if he so wishes, obligations of any religion he chooses (freedom of worship), such as the right to not fast during Ramadan.[32]" |
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Religion and politics
According to historian Kemal Karpat, the movements that perceive Islam as a political movement or particularly the view of Islam as a political religion hold the position that Atatürk was not a Muslim (true believer or religious Muslim). It is normal that this perspective was adapted, Karpat says. "He was not against Islam, but those who are against his political power using the religious arguments[4]." Any movement that wanted to establish the Caliphate had to discredit Atatürk. It is claimed that Republic reflected Kemal's personal philosophy. “ I have no religion, and at times I wish all religions at the bottom of the sea. He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government; it is as if he would catch his people in a trap. My people are going to learn the teachings of science.... Let them worship as they will; every man can follow his own conscience, provided it does not interfere with sane reason or bid him act against the liberty of his fellow man.[33] ” Many years later, when Turkey had became more secular and modern, he gave a public speech in which he criticized Islam and especially Islamic law as the views of an 'immoral Arab': “ For nearly five hundred years, these rules and theories of an Arab Shaikh and the interpretations of generations of lazy and good-for-nothing priests have decided the civil and criminal law of Turkey. They have decided the form of the Constitution, the details of the lives of each Turk, his food, his hours of rising and sleeping the shape of his clothes, the routine of the midwife who produced his children, what he learned in his schools, his customs, his thoughts-even his most intimate habits. This theology of an immoral Arab [presented as Islam] is a dead thing. Possibly it might have suited tribes in the desert. It is no good for modern, progressive state. God's revelation! There is no God! These are only the chains by which the priests and bad rulers bound the people down. A ruler who needs religion is a weaklings. No weaklings should rule![34] ” It can be claimed that Atatürk is a "cultural Muslim" or "nominal Muslim," but it should be noted that the definition of cultural Muslim itself is very far from being uncontested[citation needed]. Mustafa Kemal described the religion of Islam as the religion of Arabs in his own work titled Medenī Bilgiler: “ Even before accepting the religion of the Arabs, the Turks were a great nation. After accepting the religion of the Arabs, this religion, didn't effect to combine the Arabs, the Persians and Egyptians with the Turks to constitute a nation. (This religion) rather, loosened the national nexus of Turkish nation, got national excitement numb. This was very natural. Because the purpose of the religion founded by Muhammad, over all nations, was to drag to an including Arab national politics.[35] |
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Edhe nje video interesante per keta talibanet magjupe te FD-se
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4wT4AyuXAI[/url] |
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